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    Auction houses...how to play the game.

    As per a post thats here and looking around on the forum we have a few people who have looked into auctions and a few people who go to some auctions but there are no posts on what you SHOULD do when you are at the auctions....here are a few simple things I follow.

    Get to the auction a 2 to 3 hours or longer if its a really big auction and look around. Take notes on what you like and what you don't like. This will do a few things...they will think you are a "big" player as you are there before anyone else and you are "playing" around with things...pick them up and look at them. They will know you where there way a head of time.

    If you see something that you think someone may know something about...call them on the phone and don't worry about who sees you on the phone...they can hear you talk all day long...just never repeat prices when you are talking to someone on the phone...make sure of that..dont want other bidders to know what your top dollar is.

    Talk alittle bit to the auction staff...find out what they think are the "hot" items and go find them and GOOGLE them..find out what they are worth so you know what to bid on them when the item comes up.

    when it comes to the bidding...do not stand in front...you look like some new guy who is ready to go bid crazy....stand in the back but where you can still hear...you will see the staff at the front..but some at the back..stand by one of them and make a small sound so they hear you but no one else...you don'y really want others to know who is bidding on the item..best for other bidders to be left clueless...they will be busy looking for the bidder..and not thinking of bidding..you can win like that at times.

    Never get hipped up on an item if you win or lose it just keep a straight poker face.



    If a item starts real low..lets say $10 when it first starts and you can resell the item for $200...call a bid out right away for $50 or 100...you can shock/push the smaller bidders out real fast and they will think before they bid (bidding wars are bad...you will spend to much...best to prevent them when you can)

    This is the number one deal...I cant even tell you how many items I picked up for 50cents to a dollar...even if I did not want it. If a item comes up thats not selling...put a small bid on it and win it...they will love you for that...they HATE to tell there customer that dropped the item off that it did not sell...its better for them to say it sold..but it sold cheap (better than nothing..) so that right there can put your name on the top of there list for when auctions end they will call you up even tho you WHERE NOT AT THAT AUCTION and you can buy whole lots for DIRT cheap.

    Pointers to know if the turn out for auctions will be good or bad..

    bad weather (rain, show, ice, heat or to cold)..go..turn out will be bad and those who go will not want to spend money..they do not want to be there and in a bad mode half the time..you can get things on the cheap that should of went for more.

    Short marking time...call them up and ask them how long have they been able to market the auction...shorter the time..better it is....less people know about it.

    In city or out of city....pro and cons on both...in city...more items to bid on...but it comes with more bidders (bidding wars) outside of town...bigger items and not as many items up for sale...but not as many bidders.


    Anyway I think I will end this post as this one is kinda long...but if you have some tips or thoughts on auctions leave a post.

    P.s never tell anyone you are "dumping" x item on someone and you are running the bid up...that can end up in a very bad ending.
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    I look at everything & even if I don't want it, I will work out what I would pay for it if it was cheap enough.
    Then if the top bid is under my figure, I get it anyway, or find out later I missed a good deal on 1/2 a tin of case hardening powder & a industrial hand stapler..

    Most of the time I'm there for a specific item though & most of the auction is just spent waiting anyway.

    I like to get a good view of whats happening, several times I have messed up by not seeing what was for auction at the time, buying a bucket of odd mops & broken spades because the auctioneers OTHER hand was sitting on what I wanted...
    And I thought I was getting a good deal....

    I will push a unwanted items price up, in theory it leaves less $$ for spending at the finish of the auction & just because its worth more anyway.

    Have a brightly coloured item in my auctioning hand, makes things easier for them to see when I'm bidding.
    Take notice of whats on each side of the item I'm wanting, sometimes they will combine two items if no ones interested in one.

    I try & go thru the auction items several days before (if its possible) just to get a good idea of whats there.
    Then, just before the auction, I go thru it all again, just to make sure theres no changes, or to see what changes have been made.
    Once I bid a bunch on a small box of stuff, only to find the certain item I wanted, was stolen out of the box beforehand.

    If its a farm auction, take a vehicle with a big trailer, even if its not needed, sometimes its just plain logistics that stop other people from bidding.
    Know the other bidders, some will sell of part of their 'buy' if they know they are just cutting their outlay & I get to spend less for want the 1 I want, not 3 of them... They 1/2 their outlay & keep both of what they wanted.

    If someones gonna buy it anyway, I don't even try bidding against them, its helpful sometimes to chat with other bidders before the auction, some people have weird uses for weird stuff & will pay more than me for it in any case.

    Do some research on odd items, yah don't know what its worth until you know what it is, or isn't...
    Hench, selling a $90 item only to see it selling for $2000 reconditioned, last week.

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    A lot of good advice so far in this thread, though I personally don't agree with the idea of starting a $500 item at $250 to scare the other bidders off. Sometimes you'll get the item cheaper this way than if you had let it start lower but IMO and IME much more often if it had started at say $25 or $50 you would have gotten it for less than $250. The only time I bid like this is if I absolutely know that an item will sell for and I want to be the one that bids it. I used to do this sort of bidding at coin auctions, since after 10 lots of silver dollars sell for $30 each you probably know what the next 10 will sell for as well.

    A few other tips:

    Know a little about as many things as possible, and try to know absolutely everything about some specific items. Auction hunting for profit basically comes down to understanding the value of items better than the other customers, and knowledge is power. I can't tell you how many antique auctions I've been to where old computer equipment or video games or high end tools came up for sale that I got for next to nothing because I was the only person there that realized an Intellivision with 25 games was actually worth a lot more than the $5 I paid for it. Or the time that after memorizing the high end rare camera equipment brands that I saw a box of their parts in a box lot at an auction and got it for $2 and sold it for $200.

    Know what still has 'use'. When presented with something I'm unfamiliair with, usually electronics related, I try to estimate what it cost new, and if it still has use. If I think it looks expensive, and it could potentially be worth something I'll drop a few dollars to speculate on it. I bought something that looked vaguely like a weird pencil sharpener at an auction for $7 just because it looked high tech and expensive. A little Googling told me it was a micron level metal surface roughness tester that retailed for $2000 new and I sold my used one for $350. For a year or two every auction I went to had at least one or two satellite reiceiver boxes. Back then people could reprogram the cards from them and these little things the size of credit cards sold for $50-150 each on ebay. I probably bought 40 or more of those boxes for just a couple dollars each, rarely more than $5 or $10 each all because I wondered if people could still use them and looked them up one day. The day the cable company did away with those cards was a sad one for me, hehe

    Box lots are your friend! Many of my best auction finds were from box lots, which are where the auction company basically dumps all of their 'low end' items into boxes or piles or rows and sells them off quickly and often for just a few dollars at a time. Taking the time to sort through these box lots can reveal all sorts of stuff such as the package of fountain pens that were dumped in a box with all the other pens/pencils from a desk or the bag of brass door knobs burried in the box with old table cloths, etc.

    Smart phones are your friend at auctions, I will often make a list of items I think could be worth something and go somewhere and discretely look them up to know exactly what I want to pay.

    Be discrete yourself, if you broadcast to people that you are there to buy to resell, and they are at all savvy they will realize that you probably know what you are doing and that if you bid an item up to say, $100, the actual value is probably higher than that so it could encourage people to bid along with you. I had an issue with this at coin auctions once people picked up that I was buying to resell on eBay I had problems winning many auctions since a few regulars would use my own bidding as a barometer on when they should bid since I needed a decent profit margin.

    Be subtle with your bidding, a flash of your card or hand and then a simple hand gesture or nod is sufficient for most auctioneers and it makes you look like less of an auction noob than if you are yelling your bids or waving your card wildly.

    Sometimes an auction will be at a residence that is being cleared out. I've seen many times where the company pulls all sorts of stuff out of the house and garage then at the end of the auction says that up for bid is the remainder of what is in the barn, or the garage or whatever. There is often money to be made here! Often the stuff goes real cheap since all the "good" stuff has been pulled out and only the 'junk/garbage' is left. As scrappers we often know that junk is rusty gold but there is often more to be had than just metal items. My buddy bought the contents of a shed that had boxes of paper and other misc junk in it. He sorted through the paper and found a signed document from Abraham Lincoln. Sold it for like $10,000 at a high end auction.

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    What i do is too get too know the auction or go early, or i go inside too there there office, i tell em right up front, i dont care what it is, if it dont sell , put it over there, and i'll buy the whole pile outright, in short , so they dont have too call the garbage truck people in, over the years i made good money, like one auction , i wasnt even bidding , this was 5 piece log cabin sofa set, no bib, over in my corner it went, this was a very nice unit, hum , as i walked over , excepting the worst, i do have outlets for everything too dispose of, so no problem, just as i backed up and paid 45 for my corner, the bidder who showed up very late , that wanted that sofa, i said i bought it, what you want for i just top of mind said $350 for the set, sold, gee that was easy i said , scrapped out the rest, lawn mowers ,window fan, tons of alum window's, that took awhile too clean when i got home, my little corner netted me almoust 2 grand, that was my best haul .

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    That's an awesome story Everett, nice Job

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    Many times I'll go to auctions and my primary goal is re-sellable antiques, coins or some jewelry and I find that everything is being bid up past what I want to spend.

    When this happens, I have been successful bidding on the copper, brass, stainless, etc. items...........no matter how ugly ......and getting them fairly cheap. Has paid the gas bill and more for many a auction where the main goal had struck out.

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    I went to an auction once and there were 4 auctioneers going at the same time, (it was a large farm auction) and there were 2 items that I really wanted and they both came up close to each other. I won the first one, and ran to the 2nd across the grounds and as the auctioneer was ending the bidding I threw my hand up, the person that was about to win the item was so pissed they just left and I won the item.

    I rather wait until the end of the bidding to start bidding anyway, this gives me an idea of where the item will end up and gives me an element of surprise when I do start bidding because the people don't really know me and how much I plan on paying, if I start fresh and bid without flinching the other bidder may just give up.

    You need to know how much you will get out of any item, set a price you are willing to pay for it and never go over it. Don't bid with emotion, use your head and bid as if it was business, every time.

    I don't do many auction houses, but I do go to estate sales. The auctioneer that I go to puts all the contends in rows in the yard and goes up and down the rows, what sells goes to the winner, what doesn't stays in the row. At the end of the row he will auction off the entire row of unsold items, nobody is interested in them the first time around so you can usually get the row for a dollar or 2. I have gotten truck loads of stuff just buying the unsold rows, and made some decent money at the flea markets.
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    One auction house I frequent will bundle unwanted items with popular items to get rid of everything. They do it improv and it can be quite comical sometimes.
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