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    Easy way to double your money on transformers and copper yokes

    Double your cash! Two easy everyday scrap items you can breakdown for extra loot.



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    Except for all the new transformers. My yard just started checking all the bigger 2 step transformers. That's what they call the ones that have the coarse winding then a fine winding. They found out their alum. on the bigger winding. Paying as alum breakage, .15 a lb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic688 View Post
    Except for all the new transformers. My yard just started checking all the bigger 2 step transformers. That's what they call the ones that have the coarse winding then a fine winding. They found out their alum. on the bigger winding. Paying as alum breakage, .15 a lb.
    Same around here. Some are 1/2 copper 1/2 Al. I'd be willing to bet it's still worth while to break them down, just a lot less cash / hour

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    If You can do one in four minutes, thats about $18.75 an hour. Where I live, thats rich people money! Lol




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoman View Post
    If You can do one in four minutes, thats about $18.75 an hour. Where I live, thats rich people money! Lol

    Ha! I don't have any objections to making almost $20/hr with no taxes!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic688 View Post
    Except for all the new transformers. My yard just started checking all the bigger 2 step transformers. That's what they call the ones that have the coarse winding then a fine winding. They found out their alum. on the bigger winding. Paying as alum breakage, .15 a lb.
    Yeah, the later made microwaves and also the 'twin cook' microwaves with a griller inside them have a Ali winding instead of Copper.
    I always scratch the winding first to see what its made from. But I still get caught out....
    Yesterday I knew the thicker wire winding was Ali, but didn't check the fine wire winding..
    Both were Ali..
    It sucks when after all that work, the value changes from $3 to 18 cents..

    I can often tell by just the weight of the microwave now. Anything that's a 'woodgrain' finish is normally still all Copper.

    Also, check to see if it is a 'Invertor microwave'. They only have 100gms Copper in their circuity.

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    Not to be the party pooper, but not all transformers are created equal. Some are overlapping and some are "e" and "i" as shown in the video

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    Not to be the party pooper, but not all transformers are created equal. Some are overlapping and some are "e" and "i" as shown in the video

    Full article at Scrap Metal Forum: http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/scrap...#ixzz3B4r5rA2b
    You are correct. I recently processed about 40 or 50 like the ones in the video. Quick and easy. I still have about 40 where the E's and I's alternate. You need a good saw for those.

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    Those utube videos are going to co$t u$ dollar$ as now everyone thinks they are going to make a "Scrap metal fortune".

    I see it with what I do. It only takes a couple of people and suddenly your supply dries up.
    That's why I often leave the Ali winding microwaves, Ali winding degausser cables there and strip out the three wires from the power cords, leaving the outer shelth and plug still in place....

    All the big transformers I have seen in microwaves are the 'stacked' i's and E's sort.
    The smaller ones can be stacked, or mostly interlaced, in microwaves, that's the sort that's on the control panel etc.

    For the interlaced transformers, I use either the angle grinder, that costs money though, disc and copper.
    Or I use a carpenters chizle and cut one end off the windings and push the rest thru.

    That way, in both cases, I can put the iron cores into something steel and solid and get 'heavy metal insize' price for it.
    I also do tgat with motor iron cores, eg fridge compressors.

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    The 2 step transformers come out of newer microwaves mostly and the reason for the copper winding and the aluminum winding is cost cutting during transformer manufacturing . The microwave on high needs the draw of a copper winding but when its using defrost it only needs the draw of a aluminum winding
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    What I'm scratching my head over is why is it presented with so much hype? Its just another bit of knowledge that is already in this forum, presented just a little more matter-of-fact. And it doesn't even represent every transformer, since, as others have noted, the E-type can have alternating layers, rendering this method of removal impossible.

    And Eesa noted that if you take transformers apart in a certain manner you can keep them in a better scrap steel category than shred and make a little more off the steel. Now that is a very astute observation. With no hype.

    Is this something to get this particular video youtube viewer numbers up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawmilleng View Post
    What I'm scratching my head over is why is it presented with so much hype? Its just another bit of knowledge that is already in this forum, presented just a little more matter-of-fact.
    JackShmuc on this forum made the exact same transformer video a few years ago if you dig through old threads. He also touched base on the laminated transformers.

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    Used a hatchet to split open a couple microwave transformers. They both had all aluminum wires. But it was fun cracking them open, quick and easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawmilleng View Post
    What I'm scratching my head over is why is it presented with so much hype? Its just another bit of knowledge that is already in this forum, presented just a little more matter-of-fact. Jon.
    I know what I know and what I know is that other people....
    don't 'know'......
    I get plenty of people asking me "how do you, blah blah blah?"

    I know that if I told them the degaussing cable in a crt tv is worth X $. Every tv I see from then onwards won't have a degaussing cable in it...
    But, it will still have the yoke copper in it, the ali heatsinks and the small transformer as well.

    And I will have some idiot try and sell me one for $10.... yeah, just one degaussing cable...

    When I tell someone there's Gold in a computer, first thing they do is grab it like I'm gonna try and pry it out of their arms, their eyes go crossed and they start thinking of all the things they can buy with the lumps of gold there must be in a computer, because, "someone said there is GOLD in a computer, GOLD man GOLD! I'm gonna be rich"

    Its all just "pub talk" too. Just something they can tell and impress other people after 4 beers at the pub.
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    I know what I know and what I know is that other people....
    don't 'know'......
    I get plenty of people asking me "how do you, blah blah blah?"

    I know that if I told them the degaussing cable in a crt tv is worth X $. Every tv I see from then onwards won't have a degaussing cable in it...
    But, it will still have the yoke copper in it, the ali heatsinks and the small transformer as well.

    And I will have some idiot try and sell me one for $10.... yeah, just one degaussing cable...

    When I tell someone there's Gold in a computer, first thing they do is grab it like I'm gonna try and pry it out of their arms, their eyes go crossed and they start thinking of all the things they can buy with the lumps of gold there must be in a computer, because, "someone said there is GOLD in a computer, GOLD man GOLD! I'm gonna be rich"

    Its all just "pub talk" too. Just something they can tell and impress other people after 4 beers at the pub.

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    I don't worry to much about youtube videos. Have you read the comments people make after watching them? Some think it's cool but most people think it's a waste of time or don't believe there is money to be made. If someone does ask me how much a computer or a tv is worth I tell them. I will go through the process of breaking down a computer. For example, I tell them what each item is worth per pound and about how many you need to make a pound. Most think I'm an idiot wasting my time and the rest just aren't going to take the time to do it and that's fine with me. If someone really wants to "know" I'm more than willing to help them. When I see a post of someone who has scrapped 1 computer and they think they're going to get rich from all of the gold in it I just shake my head and smile. Yes that pic of the P4 mother board and the gold finger memory is nice but when you have about 500 pounds come back and we'll talk.

    Oh, BTW, I had a neighbor who owns a computer store tell me something the other day. He said he heard that the GPS devices on the big commercial trucks actually had a gold nugget inside them. Not a gold plated chip or any gold plated boards. He said there was a solid gold nugget in them!!!
    WOOOHOOO! I'm gonna be rich!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimicrk View Post
    Oh, BTW, had a neighbor who owns a computer store tell me something the other day. He said he heard that the GPS devices on the big commercial trucks actually had a gold nugget inside them. Not a gold plated chip or any gold plated boards. He said there was a solid gold nugget in them!!!
    WOOOHOOO! I'm gonna be rich!
    That's the impression I get from people too, there's a "solid gold part in there" with 24k stamped on it and a jeweler will pay a thousand dollars cash for it......

    Actually, while doing scrap I met a husband and wife who were dumping used computer cases.
    I asked "what the were doing with the ewaste, boards and such?."

    He says "We are going to get the gold out of them"
    "How are you doing that?" I ask.
    "Well, we get a mortor and pestle and smash the boards up into tiny peices and put them into the mortor and grind them up by hand"
    I start laughing, I know its bollocks, I know they don't do that at all.
    "And then we start grinding them, for hours, or arms get sooo tired, but we keep on going all day. Our arms are like this, and when its a really fine powder we put it in a crucible and heat it up in a fire"
    I'm really laughing hard now....
    "And because golds heaver than the other metals it drops to the bottom and we get a lump of Gold"
    As he was talking about the grinding, he was doing a arm.movement, definatly not grinding, pulling my leg maybe, pulling something anyway...

    So a minute later I ask his wife how they get the Gold out.
    She does exactly the same story....same hand movements and all

    I'm larfin so much I can hardly stand straight.

    Its obvious they have both planned this for when they get asked "how do you get the Gold out?"

    I actually took it as a complement, they are the only people I will actually meet/see who can do 'getting Gold out'

    And its a great story for me to tell those who want to know "how to get the Gold'.....

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    That's funny.

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    people are F@#%%@ ...lol..

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    You got Floride in the water over there too ?
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    "And then we start grinding them, for hours, or arms get sooo tired, but we keep on going all day. Our arms are like this, and when its a really fine powder we put it in a crucible and heat it up in a fire"
    I'm really laughing hard now....
    "And because golds heaver than the other metals it drops to the bottom and we get a lump of Gold"
    And how much contaminates are mixed in with the "gold"??

    Good story tho, definitely pulling someone's leg (maybe that's what the arm motion was)


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