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    ac's

    why do wac's have no brass on them and the hac's have brass on them? is there more pressure in the home ones? do all ac techs take the ac's or can you request that they take the gas out as part of the job when putting in the new one?



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    no brass on this one...


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    What are wac's and hac's?

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    I'm guessing window AC and home AC.

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    Its like an appliance delivery. They bring the new one and take the old one. Its in the contract. You either have to pay a fee for removal or they will sometimes do "free Recycling" on the unit. You can say to the person who does the estimate that you want to keep the old one before you agree to have them do the job.

    So.......Are wac's, window units and hac's, central air units??

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    Split systems have brass isolation valves and packaged units don't. Most heat pumps have a brass 3-way valve, but I have seen steel ones.

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    sry for the late reply wac(window air conditioner) hac(home air conditioner) i just thought id use acronyms. so why are you more likely to get a wac from someone then you are to get a hac from a guy? i found that it matters most with the person the older ones are more mean then the younger ones. so how often do you get wac's and how often do you get hac's? are wac's more easily aquired?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike1 View Post
    sry for the late reply wac(window air conditioner) hac(home air conditioner) i just thought id use acronyms. so why are you more likely to get a wac from someone then you are to get a hac from a guy? i found that it matters most with the person the older ones are more mean then the younger ones. so how often do you get wac's and how often do you get hac's? are wac's more easily aquired?
    As an old mean guy let me say: If you want a steady stream of any kind of ac then develop business accounts. Much has been written on the forum on techniques for selling your services so read more. 73, Mike
    "Profit begins when you buy NOT when you sell." {quote passed down to me from a wise man}

    Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked

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    Strip a couple figure out your price per pound before and after you brake them down. Then market your service to contractors. At these low prices and what they charge per hour your the better option. I was paying around 50-80$ for 1ton est. roof top units. Takes half hour to brake one down as long as you rememnerd to charge your drill battery. You also need to be avlible to be on site when the Crain guy removes it. Every one i was able to buy had the nasty stuff recoverd before I left. I haven't bought one in 2 years but get free window units all the time. I sell them whole as is. Due to not have recovery unit. Some yards up here are only paying copper content for the window units....it's getting harder to find profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miked View Post
    As an old mean guy let me say: If you want a steady stream of any kind of ac then develop business accounts. Much has been written on the forum on techniques for selling your services so read more. 73, Mike
    That certainly is the way to go. You would be surprised how many HVAC companies "scrap" the units they remove by sending an apprentice with the truck to push them into the shred pile.

    What incentive does anyone have to spend the time to break down an ac unit? They aren't keeping the money. It goes to the company.

    Which do you think pays more, getting an extra 60.00 to pull the coil and compressor, or getting paid to repair/replace a system?

    When I was doing HVAC work we went from 7:00am till dark and sometimes later. Just brutal this time of year.

    I will mention, it's a good old boy's club. You may find that many companies just aren't even interested in talking to you. Time is money. It really helps if you are:

    1. Certified (birds of a feather flock together)

    2. Know someone.

    I would have an actual business, know exactly what I could pay, and hit the streets. Once you get one account, you will find it a lot easier to get a second (ie. I purchase equipment from xxxx Mechanical and thought my service can help your company also, let me show you how...).

    I really believe if you want to get your foot in the door, doing the work and getting your 608 certification will at least get people to take 2 mins to listen to you. You are in our "business" rather than an outsider.

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    And let me add there is a great study guide available here on SMF. Want to find it? Go to the first page before you log in and normally you will find the add for it in the right margin. It's titled "Are you to take on new clients?". It prepares you for doing the recovery of refrigerants, another way to make money. 73, Mike



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