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    White Brass

    Does anyone have any idea on a price for white brass?



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    Quote Originally Posted by ScrapperNJ26 View Post
    Does anyone have any idea on a price for white brass?
    What makes you think it's brass and not stainless steel. Can you post a picture or give some details what the item was used for.

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    I've always been a little confused when I come across it on faucet parts mostly, as to what it really is. White brass, nickel or what? No sparks on mine so I didn't think it was stainless. I put it in the yellow brass bucket I never got any complaints so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KZBell View Post
    I've always been a little confused when I come across it on faucet parts mostly, as to what it really is. White brass, nickel or what? No sparks on mine so I didn't think it was stainless. I put it in the yellow brass bucket I never got any complaints so far.
    What if it had been nickel alloy worth $10.00 a lb, there are some simple acid tests you can do using nitric acid, the spot will turn green. This will only confirm that you have nickel not the amount in the alloy. Price varies depending on nickel content.

    Pure nickel is currently valued at $9.69 a lb throw in a couple more exotic metals into the alloy the price could even be more.
    http://www.kitcometals.com/charts/Nickel.html

    Beyond this I'm at a loss to make further comment, nickel and her alloys are what I am currently researching.

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    Would white brass ever show reddish when hit with a file? I found a piece of a shower curtain rod that I first thought was stainless but when I filed a spot it looked pinkish so I tossed it in my brass pile. I don't have a way to do a spark test currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjybjy View Post
    Would white brass ever show reddish when hit with a file? I found a piece of a shower curtain rod that I first thought was stainless but when I filed a spot it looked pinkish so I tossed it in my brass pile. I don't have a way to do a spark test currently.
    Could be brass that is plated with something, if a mag doesn't stick I would guess it is brass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KZBell View Post
    Could be brass that is plated with something, if a mag doesn't stick I would guess it is brass.

    Thanks, yes it was non-magnetic. A little research on google made me think it could have been chrome plated brass or copper but I'm still new to things like this so its nice to get the feedback.

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    They were from 2 old lamp bases I picked up yesterday. They were painted brass color, but scratch test came out silver. The 2 pieces come to 7 1/4 lbs. To heavy to be cast.

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    Monel one of the nickel alloys is slightly red it;s weired stuff slightly magnetic at room temperature and maybe more magnetic near welded seams or where a hole has been drilled or cut with a plasma,, virtually no spark, test with nitric acid turns green before being overcome with the copper content which eventually turns a pretty aqua blue almost turquoise.

    On monel scrap look for traces of green oxides, this will be nickel that has reacted with the surrounding atmosphere.

    Monel is commonly used for high end bathroom fixtures, kitchen sinks, pump impellers, boat propeller shafts. But is so tricky to truly identify most of us including me sell it as stainless steel scrap. The yards that own an XRF can identify these nickel alloys, bit I'm sure that they will not test every bit if Stainless you bring in on a whim.

    We the junk man would have to know the metal and presort. If your yard says monel and inconel are bought as stainless, save it and find a buyer who specializes in nickel scrap, $7.00 a pound nothing to sneeze at.

    Not much help on this stuff as I'm trying to learn more about nickel myself.

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    First call to follow up on my Monel, $4.00 a pound, the alloy is 60 percent nickel 30 percent copper with some iron. I think that I can do better on price will have to wait until Monday to check on my second sample.

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    Thank you much Gustavus. I have to go get some Nitric Acid but the only place I can get it is 30 miles in either direction. One way being with a $5 bridge toll. Philadelphia, Pa or Atlantic City, NJ. Grainger Supply. Also no red tint or green oxidation
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    Tried a spark test today and no sparks.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris Kringle View Post
    There is a Red Brass never seen it in Sheet form Or a Flashing Form, I have seen copper in All Forms except Cast
    Now you've seen copper cast into an art object, one of my castings. Wife uses it as weight to hold the door open.



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    A good faucet will be chrome plated brass, cheap ones will be white metal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris Kringle View Post
    Now I can Say I seen it in Cast Gus lolol
    Careful on that statement mrdwgood, copper does not cast very good at all, it is not used for that reason. Had I shown the backside on that casting you would see how poorly it went.

    Bronze has good characteristics for casting art objects and has been traditionally used for casting for eons.

    You can draw copper into wire or pipe, hammer or roll it it into sheet or work it on a metal spinning lathe, using a wood stick you can form the copper sheet over a mold to make an object.

    To name one item. Copper starter and generator brushes have been formed using powder technology called sintering.

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    These are die cast zinc metals or (pot metal) which is just metal with no scientific makeup as far as percentages of the metals involved they are usually mixtures of copper brass chromium zinc and are used mostly for water applications my yard pays faucets 1.65 pound

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